or during a debate in November: “You know, before I came over here tonight, I was thinking, we’re going to have this debate; when we finish, all of you are going to be on television saying, oh, who scored points, who won the debate. All of us are going to be fine. The question is, will America be fine?”

or during a debate in December: “What’s not at stake are any of us. All of us are going to be just fine no matter what happens in this election. But what’s at stake is whether America is going to be fine”

So the credit should go to Sen. Edwards. (and Bill Clinton, cause another part of this statement was a copy of his answer from an interview in 1992)
http://anunlovedone.wordpress.com/2008/02/24/clinton-lies-about-nafta-and-xerox-speeches/

God, these people have forever made me sick. The Obama bandwagon is all about mediocrity!

No one questions the valor or honorable service of John McCain or his son. The issue is not service … it is purpose.

Logic is a pesty thing you know. Logic, SunTzu, The Powell Doctrine, STRATEGIC defense, Justice.

The war in Iraq no matter how it was begun and for what purpose, (that purpose actually being fulfilled ergo - Saddam is dead and and IED is hardly a weapon of mass destruction.) has now evolved into a counter insurgent war against occupation and a civil war between sectarian divides. The task of protecting our National Security has been suplainted by the difficult job of nation building.

No member of our military dies in vain in the defense of our nation and our strategic security. However, death in the throws of another nations internal struggles, or at the hands of cowards who could not reach him otherwise, is neither heroic or justifiable.
The failure is not that of the grunt on the ground - but the incompetent leadership of command that does not recognize the true purpose of war.

War is not to be undending. War is not for the purposes of forced adhearance to democracy. War is not for the purpose of dividing the tribal bloodshead of others heaping fresh blood upon the centuries of carnage. War is not for revenge. War is not for chasing phantoms across the desert sands.

Staying in Iraq 100 years is a delusional, incompetent analysis and false comparison with other conflicts such as Germany or Japan. In both of those cases we subjegated the masses of each nation to the wrath of TOTAL WAR, and heaped upon them the suffering that lead to total capitulation and surrender. That is WAR. It is absolute, final and catastrophic anihilation of the enemy. And then - and only then - can occupation and nation building succeed. The cultures of the middle east however are less likely to capitulate, and we are not prepared to heap upon them the suffering of anihilation that would cause them to hault their fanatical cause.

Thus 100 years at 800 soldiers per year will be 80,000 dead. At 200 Billion dollars per year your grandchildren and their children will be foraging in the refuse piles of desolation, in a poor 3rd world country called America.

Our founding fathers wisely discouraged the entrapments of forieng wars for profit or territorial expasion. (after all it was a pretty big continent and there was plenty of space to do that right here).

The blood and treasure of this nation would be better served if John McCain and his son went to Texas to secure our own borders, protect our own citizens, to help in time of need and natural disaster, and to stand ready against true STRATEGIC threats that may emerge in the coming decades.

As for the klingons…. “let them die”